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Friday, November 20, 2009

RE: [Honda-C70] Re: c70 frame shot

billtatem : The rear fender on a USA type passport is welded to the frame about 6 inches behind the shock mounts. My 81 does not appear to have any inner metal. So the rear fender is part of the frame/body the same way a cars rear fenders are part of the body. Baby Huey`s 2 cents

To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
From: billtatem@rocketmail.com
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:24 +0000
Subject: [Honda-C70] Re: c70 frame shot

--- In Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com, "billtatem@..." <billtatem@...> wrote:
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> --- In Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com, Mike Gladu <mgladu@> wrote:
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> > At 6:11 PM +0000 11/17/09, billtatem@ wrote:
> > >hello there everyone,new to this forum I am so Id like to start by
> > >sayin hi!anyways Ive got a few issues here in bermuda .I picked up a
> > >complete c70 from 1982 the other day and Ive ran into a few
> > >problems...Someone welded the rear fender to the frame...the frame
> > >is shot in the rear!would a cub90 frame accept the c70 parts?My main
> > >concern is the rear fender.has anyone ever tried this?Thanx for your
> > >time.and thankyou for this site!
> >
> > Since you are in Bermuda, and we don't really know exactly what a C70
> > OR a Cub90 would look like there - I'm not too sure how much help we
> > can be.
> >
> > The USA-Type 1982 is a 12 volt electric start model. Is that what you have?
> >
> > The Cub90 was never imported to the USA, so we'd need help
> > identifying that model as well.
> >
> > The rear fender of your donor bike should have the same profile, same
> > taillight mount, and the break in the frame where the fender is
> > welded on has to look the same as your new fender.
> >
> > There are a few new fenders you can buy online, but they are for the
> > most part only for early Cubs (1960's) and modern General Export Cubs
> > with the metal taillight bracket welded to the fender, not bolted on
> > like the USA-Type.
> >
> > Maybe putting pictures of the two fenders in our photo section online
> > will help us help you.
> >
> > Mike G.
> > -
> >thanks for the quick reply Mike.As the bike goes(c70)It is the american type with the bolted on tail light.It came from the US base that was here.The cub90 is the 1999 model with the plastic rear fender.Now looking at the frames they almost look identical.Im trying to cut the welded metal off the bike to see if there is a difference.This will take some time as the guy put 3 sheets over the fender.Ill post some pics when my loving fiance gets home...cheers
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does a c70 passport have an inner fender on the rear,if there is does anyone have any photos,Im new to this bike,Its so rusty and welded I dont know what it looked like originally.how do you fasten the fender to the bike?Sorry to post stupid questions....

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Thursday, November 19, 2009

[Honda-C70] Re: engine swap

--- In Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com, Mike Gladu <mgladu@...> wrote:
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> At 10:20 PM +0000 11/18/09, Roy wrote:
> >Ok good advice, here is some new info i just got, the guy doesnt
> >know if the motor came from a trail90 or a CT90. how can i tell? I
> >have a picture of it but i don't know how to load it on here. what
> >should I look for when go to see it in person? because I have been
> >told a ct 90 will fit.
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> Trail90 and CT90 are the same bike.
>

Just for clarification, the "Trail 90" sometimes also refers to the CT200, a push rod 87cc engine that will nearly bolt on to a C70 Passport.

The OHC Trail 90, with the serial number beginning with CT90, will not fit in a C70 without a lot of modification. The bolt pattern is different, the 90 bottom end is bigger, not just at the dual-range point. This is why the Chinese clone engines (which fit the C70) need an adapter kit to go into the CT90 frame. http://dratv.com/adchtob.html

Double check my facts here before you buy an engine that might not fit easily.

Thomas
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